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Koszonom a sok postot! Ubuntu-t megnezem. Most sietek sajnos.
VGA-val, felbontassal kapcsolatban mi a helyzet?

Nos, felmasziroztam egy ubuntu linuxot, minimal cd image segitsegevel. Grafikus felulet mar van, openbox (elsore azt hittem elrontottam valamit, csak nagy feketeseg fogadott, aztan jottem ra ez mar a grafikus felulet [jobb click] ((: ).
Ha minden igaz, ez egy alap rendszer akkor, erre pakolgathatom fel ami programokat javasoltatok. Lehet ez ua., mintha debiannak alltam volna neki. Nem tudom. Megprobalkozom elsore a vga driverrel (nvidia quadro-hoz).
Egyelore konnyuszerrel elboldogulok a rendszerrel, logikus, ertheto es "felautomata". (:

A(lbino) L(ynx) R(acing)

Probalgatom a lehetosegeket. Elkeveredtem a puppy linux honlapra. 100MB, gondoltam par percet meger. Bootolas, pikk-pakk, vga test, stb, ket kutyaugatas es kesz a rendszer vazz'! Nagyfelbontas kapasbol, van media lejatszo, webbongeszo, rajzprogram, stb. Elso blikkre ott van a szeren. Kicsit at kellene pofozni, par programot lecserelni (abiword - openoffice, stb) - de ez szvsz megoldhato lenne.
Zabalja NTFS-t, de nem automountos (nem hatrany!!!). Viszont pillanatok alatt lehet csatlakoztatni valamit, ha kell. A csomagkezelojevel nem tudom mi a helyzet. Ebben kernek egy kis sugast.

Ezt irja a hivatalos honlapon:
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Q: Installing packages

Okay, I have booted the live-CD. Do I have to install Puppy to hard drive to be able to install the extra packages?
A:

Not at all! There is absolutely no need to install Puppy to hard drive, and the majority of Puppy users just run Puppy from the live-CD. Puppy has two package installation systems, PupGet and DotPup, available from the "Setup" menu. Any package that you choose to download and install will go into Puppy's "pup_save.3fs" file, which is permanent storage on the hard drive.
I recommend that you read-up on the package management system: Package management

Note: If you have booted Puppy the very first time, you should shutdown and reboot, so that Puppy will have a pup_save.3fs file (see previous question). Then, when you run the Puppy package manager and install packages, they will be installed permanantly.
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Nem teljesen vilagos a boot cd elhagyasa sem. Ha jol ertem, nem kell installalni (mint egy ubuntut, stb), csak futtasd a live cd-rol. Utanna meg rater a csomagkezelo rendszerre. De hogyan lesz ebbol nekem hdd-s rendszer? Felmasolom csak? Mitol fog bootolni?

A(lbino) L(ynx) R(acing)

Megerkeztem az elso um. "kulsos" programom installalasahoz. Puppy linux nagyon megtetszett. Egyelore azonban felretettem es a legujabb ubuntu hardy-t gyurom. Nem rossz, de fenyevekre van a sebesseg teren a puppytol. No mindegy, most nem is ez a lenyeg.

Adott az ubuntu install, erre szeretnem installalni a pro-e w3-at, direkt linux install.
ISO formatumban van, ezt batorkodtam kitomoriteni egy mappaba. Van egy "setup" file. Gondoltam futtatni kellene. Grafikus feluletrol inditva hiaba valasztom a futtatast, vagy futtatas terminalban - semmi reakcio.

Ez a setup file tartalma:
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#!/bin/sh -f
#=============================================================
# MODIFICATIONS
# ---------------------------------------------------------
# 06-Oct-97 $$1 JJE Created.
# 28-Oct-97 $$2 JJE Use -dirs
# 05-Dec-97 $$3 JJE Remove -vrdirs, set LC_NUMERIC to C
# 22-Dec-97 $$4 JJE Check DISPLAY
# 05-Jan-98 $$5 JJE ignore
# 13-Jan-98 $$6 JJE Use delta lib
# 22-Jan-98 $$7 JJE Add . to path on sgi
# 23-Jan-98 $$8 JJE Add startup messages
# 27-Jan-98 $$9 JJE Add cr
# 31-Jan-98 $$10 JJE Don't echo argv
# 23-Feb-98 $$11 ZRL Added remote install
# 06-Apr-98 $$12 JJE Add sgi_mips4
# 22-Jun-98 $$13 ZRL removed galaxy library
# 29-Jun-98 ##14 ZRL use galaxy library only on sgi_elf2
# 11-Aug-98 $$14 JJE Fix remote install for mips4
# 22-Oct-98 $$15 TWH Fixed remote install
# 11-Nov-98 TWH Fixed cleanup
# 20-Nov-98 $$16 TWH Fixed Trusted login check for Sun
# 08-Sep-99 $$17 JJE Migrate to new installer
# 20-Oct-99 $$18 MYA Add DPS_DIRECTORY
# 07-Aug-00 TWH Check if hpux11_pa32 exists
# 22-Aug-00 $$19 TWH rewritten to /bin/sh for multicd
# 18-Sep-00 $$20 TWH support non \c echo; -multicd iff using redirect
# 09-Oct-00 $$21 TWH Fix command-line args; fix PROSETUP_EXE bug
# 31-Oct-00 $$22 TWH Fix for $0 == "setup"
# 17-Jan-01 $$23 TWH always run sun4_solaris instead of _64 this script
# 16-May-01 $$24 TWH always run hpux11_pa32 instead of hpux_pa64
# 13-Jun-02 $$25 JJE Support -64 arg
# 16-Jul-02 $$26 TWH Set TMP & TEMP if not set
# 20-Aug-02 $$27 TWH Fix #26
# 26-Aug-02 $$28 TWH Another fix for #26
# 23-Jan-03 J-03-41 $$29 MAZ Support PROSETUP_EXE in multicd mode
# 04-Mar-03 ALG Remove hp8k
# 04-Mar-03 K-01-02 ALG $$30 1004931: Don't fall back if fallback not exist
# 15-Apr-03 K-01-06 TWH $$31 Handle sgi_elf4
# 11-Jun-04 K-03-04 MAZ $$32 SPR 1086820: fix 32 bit fallback logic
#=============================================================

rundir=`pwd`
fullscrname=$0
# :t
scrname=`echo $fullscrname | awk -F"/" '{ print $NF}'`
# :h
fullscrpath=`echo $fullscrname | awk -F"/" '{ ORS="/"} { n=split($0,A)} { for (i = 1; i < n; i++) print A[i] }'`
if [ "$fullscrpath" = "" ]
then
fullscrpath=$0
else
fullscrpath=`echo $fullscrpath | awk '{ n=length($0)} { n -= 1} { print substr($0,1,n)}'`
fi

if [ "$fullscrpath" = "$fullscrname" ]
then
fullscrpath=`pwd`
else
cd $fullscrpath
fullscrpath=`pwd`
fi

echostr=`echo "test \c"`
if [ "$echostr" = "test \c" ]
then
alt_echo=true
fi

bit_mode_64=false
other_args=""
i=1
while [ "$i" -le $# ]
do
if [ "$1" = "-display" ]
then
shift
echo "setting DISPLAY to: $1"
DISPLAY="$1"
export DISPLAY
shift
elif [ "$1" = "?" -o "$1" = "-h" -o "$1" = "-help" ]
then
echo ""
echo "Usage: $scrname [ -display unix:0 ]"
exit 0
elif [ "$1" = "-remote" ]
then
echo ""
echo "Sorry, remote installation is not supported in this release."
exit 1
elif [ "$1" = "-cdrom" ]
then
shift
echo "setting CDROM path to: $1"
fullscrpath="$1"
shift
elif [ "$1" = "-64" ]
then
shift
bit_mode_64=true
else
other_args="$other_args $1"
shift
fi
done

cd $rundir
prodir=$fullscrpath
imagedir=$fullscrpath
getpmtscr="getpmt.csh"

if [ ! -x "$imagedir/$getpmtscr" ]
then
echo ""
echo "ERROR: $imagedir/$getpmtscr - file is missing."
echo " Check the name of the CD mount directory."
exit 1
fi

mctype=`$imagedir/$getpmtscr`
if [ "$mctype" = "UNKNOWN" ]
then
echo ""
echo "ERROR: OS name unknown."
exit 1
fi

test "$TMP"
if [ $? != 0 ]
then
if [ -x "/tmp" ]
then
TMP="/tmp"
export TMP
elif [ -x "/var/tmp" ]
then
TMP="/var/tmp"
export TMP
fi
fi
test "$TEMP"
if [ $? != 0 ]
then
if [ -x "/tmp" ]
then
TEMP="/tmp"
export TEMP
elif [ -x "/var/tmp" ]
then
TEMP="/var/tmp"
export TEMP
fi
fi
test "$DISPLAY"
if [ $? != 0 ]
then
echo ""
echo 'ERROR: The DISPLAY variable is not set - '
echo ""
echo " Options:"
echo " o Press to set DISPLAY to `hostname`:0.0"
echo " o Type a value to use for the DISPLAY variable"
echo " o Enter 'q' to abort prosetup"
echo " o Specify '-display :0' on the command line"
echo ""
test "$alt_echo"
if [ $? = 0 ]
then
echo -n "Set it to (`hostname`:0.0): [q to abort] "
else
echo "Set it to (`hostname`:0.0): [q to abort] \c"
fi
read line
if [ "$line" = "q*" -o "$line" = "Q*" ]
then
exit -1
elif [ "$line" = "" ]
then
DISPLAY="`hostname`:0.0"
export DISPLAY
else
DISPLAY="$line"
export DISPLAY
fi
echo ""
echo " DISPLAY has been set to: $DISPLAY"
echo ""
fi

echo ""
test "$alt_echo"
if [ $? = 0 ]
then
echo -n "Starting PTC.Setup, please wait ..."
else
echo "Starting PTC.Setup, please wait ...\c"
fi

#
# SUN
#
# Run the 32-bit executable if indicated and arch exists
if [ "$mctype" = "sun4_solaris_64" -a "$bit_mode_64" = "false" ]
then
if [ -x "$imagedir/dsrc/sun4_solaris/obj/ptcsetup" ]
then
mctype="sun4_solaris"
fi
fi

# If still 64-bit, but arch doesn't exist, fall back to 32-bit if it exists
if [ "$mctype" = "sun4_solaris_64" -a ! -d "$imagedir/dsrc/$mctype" ]
then
if [ -x "$imagedir/dsrc/sun4_solaris/obj/ptcsetup" ]
then
mctype="sun4_solaris"
fi
fi

if [ "$mctype" = "sun4_solaris" ]
then
PATH=$PATH:/usr/ucb
export PATH
fi

#
# SGI
#
if [ "$mctype" = "sgi_elf4" -a "$bit_mode_64" = "false" ]
then
if [ -x "$imagedir/dsrc/sgi_mips4/obj/ptcsetup" ]
then
mctype="sgi_mips4"
fi
fi
if [ "$mctype" = "sgi_elf2" -o "$mctype" = "sgi_mips4" ]
then
PATH=.:$PATH
export PATH
fi

#
# HP
#
# Run the 32-bit executable if indicated and arch exists
if [ "$mctype" = "hpux_pa64" -a "$bit_mode_64" = "false" ]
then
if [ -x "$imagedir/dsrc/hpux11_pa32/obj/ptcsetup" ]
then
mctype="hpux11_pa32"
fi
fi

# If still 64-bit, but arch doesn't exist, fall back to 32-bit if it exists
if [ "$mctype" = "hpux_pa64" -a ! -d "$imagedir/dsrc/$mctype" ]
then
if [ -x "$imagedir/dsrc/hpux11_pa32/obj/ptcsetup" ]
then
mctype="hpux11_pa32"
fi
fi

PTC_CDHOME=$imagedir
export PTC_CDHOME
PS_DIRECTORY=$imagedir/dsrc
export PS_DIRECTORY
DPS_DIRECTORY=$imagedir/dsrc
export DPS_DIRECTORY
PRO_MACHINE_TYPE=$mctype
export PRO_MACHINE_TYPE
LC_NUMERIC=C
export LC_NUMERIC

test "$PROSETUP_EXE"
if [ $? != 0 ]
then
PROSETUP_EXE="$imagedir/dsrc/$mctype/obj/ptcsetup"
elif [ -x "$PROSETUP_EXE" ]
then
echo ""
test "$alt_echo"
if [ $? = 0 ]
then
echo -n "Using $PROSETUP_EXE ..."
else
echo "Using $PROSETUP_EXE ...\c"
fi
fi

if [ ! -x "$PROSETUP_EXE" ]
then
echo ""
echo "ERROR: $PROSETUP_EXE - file is missing."
echo " Check the name of the CD mount directory."
exit 1
fi

REDIRECT_EXE="$imagedir/dsrc/$mctype/obj/redirect"
if [ -x "$REDIRECT_EXE" ]
then
($REDIRECT_EXE $other_args -multicd ) &
else
($PROSETUP_EXE $other_args )&
fi

echo ""
exit 0
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Lehet rosszul csinalom, csak CD-rol lehet installalni?
Tudom ez nem konkretan temaba vago kerdes, nem akartam ugy topikot nyitni emiatt az ubuntu reszben. De megteszem, ha itt nem kapok segitseget... [;

A(lbino) L(ynx) R(acing)

Mit benazok el megint?
Xubuntu 8.04-ben nem talalok mountolast segito programot. Ubuntuban kenyelmes volt: helyek, kivalasztottam melyiket szeretnem, felmountolta. Most probalom terminalbol a cd-rom-ot, eleve nem az az eszkoz neve, ami pl. egy how-to-ban szerepel. Megtalaltam azert. Keri viszont a filerendszer tipusat.
Mindegy, gondoltam legalabb egy hdd-t hozzunk ossze. Hat ezt meg nemes egyszeruseggel nem talalom az eszkozok kozott.

A(lbino) L(ynx) R(acing)