Elmélkedés a SCO ügyről

A FUD mindig mukodik. Aki azt mondja, hogy nem gondolkodik el rajta az hazudik. Nem veletlenul jelennek meg ellennyilatkozatok, tanulmanyok. pont azert kene az emberek nagy reszet felvilagositani. itt a lehetoseg, hozza lehet szolni olyanoknak, akik tisztaban vannak a jogi dolgokkal.

Egyebkent egy kis adalek:

Alan Cox-tol megkerdeztek a kernel listan, hogy mi a velemenye a SCO ugyrol. Azt mondta, hogy nem hiszi, hogy SCO altal reklamalt kod kerult volna a Linux kernelbe. Ezt viszont kizarni nem lehet 100%-ban. O ugy tudja, hogy nem es remeli, hog yigy is van. Es ha kiderul, hogy megis van, akkor mi lesz? Hangzott a masik kerdes? Erre Cox azt mondta, hogy O lesz az elso aki bepereli az IBM-et.

List: linux-kernel

Subject: Re: SCO offers UnixWare licenses for Linux

From: Alan Cox

Date: 2003-07-24 19:32:19

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On Iau, 2003-07-24 at 16:49, Sancar Saran wrote:

> I wish to know are we have backup plan any backup plan. Most of Linux users

> are gonna worry.

Well if IBM did steal stuff my backup plan is to sue IBM, as I suspect is everyone elses. There are basically three outcomes.

Azaz, ha az IBM megis a fejlesztok tudta nelkul kodot csempeszett a Linux kernelbe, akkor Cox bepereli a IBM-t, mint ahogy az osszes kernelfejleszto be fogja perelni....

#1 The whole thing is without merit (as it seems to be now)

#2 IBM did it and have to buy SCO (because everyone will sue IBM, every Linux developer, every business, every user)

#3 SCO gets bankrupted by countersuits (popular US approach to law)

Teljes level itt [marc.theaimsgroup.com].

ha nincs az elmelkedes, ezt nem irod le, es nem olvassa el sok szaz ember. en meg valaszolgathatok az irc-n olyan hulye kerdesekre, mint amilyenekre ma valaszolgattam. ehhez se kedvem, se turelmem.

igy meg valaszolgat helyettem mas. akar te, akar mas.

ennek ez volt a celja, es a celjat elerte ;-)

Egyebkent a magyar torvenyek ismerete nem eleg. Nyilvan nem egy atlag emberre nezve, de egy ismertebb emberre levetitve lehet ugy is jarni, mint az orosz csavo, aki feltorte az Adobe? (IIRC) egyik programjat, aztan rohogott oroszorszagban, mert ott nem vonatkoztak ra a amerikai torvenyek. Egeszen addig rohogott, amig meghivtak egy konferenciara az USA-ba. Aztan mar nem vigyorgott, amikor a beutazasnal par arc varta es bilincsben vittek el. Ugyanis onnantol az amerikai torvenyek vonatkoztak ra. Azok meg sokkal szigoruabbak. Es mint tudjuk, amerikaban minden megtortenhet.

Igen, csak attol hogy nem fogadod el az o idiota rendszeruket, attol az meg letezik. Es sajnos veszelyes is lehet.

Pelda:

1.) Marcelo Tosattit kiutasitottak az orszagbol, amikor az egy konferencian akart resztvenni, azert mert turista vizuma volt

2.) Alan Cox nem ad ki changelogot (lasd kernel.org) mert fel a DMCA-tol

3.) Cox es mas fejlesztok szerint a Linux es egyeb szabad szoftveres fejlesztesek egy inkabb olyan orzagokban folynak majd, ahol a torvenyek masabbak. Egyertelmuen arra celzott, hogy a fejlesztesek attevodnek a del-amerikai orszagokba, mint peldaul Brazilia

4.) Torvalds sem veletlenul foglamazott a SCO ugy kirobbanasakor ugymond "visszafogottan", van azert mitol felnie neki is. Ezt a szemere is vetettek tobben

Az amerikai torvenyek olyanok, hgy nem biztos, hogy az nyer akinek igaza van

pedig en ugy tudom, hogy sittre is kerult.

>Ketlem, hogy egy orosz allampolgarral szemben elvaras volna az USA torvenyeinek ismerete es betarasa.

"A torvenyek nem ismerte nem ad felmentest a buntetojogi felelosseg alol."

de azert megkeresem az ugyet, mert tavaly nyaron volt, lehet hogy rosszul emlekszem

Na meg is van. Annak ellenere tartoztatta le az FBI, hogy egy olyan programot tort fel, amely Oroszorszagban nem is torvenyes. A kutyat nem erdekelte a vedkezese:

"LOS ANGELES (Reuters) — A Russian computer programmer who gave a presentation at the DefCon hacker convention in Las Vegas this weekend has been arrested by the FBI on charges that he wrote a program that allegedly circumvents a controversial U.S copyright law.

Dmitry Sklyarov, 26, was arrested in his room at the Alexis Park Hotel on Monday as he prepared to check out and return to Moscow, said special FBI agent Daron Borst said on Tuesday.

Sklyarov was ordered held without bail during an initial appearance in federal court in Las Vegas on Monday and will be transferred to San Francisco, where he has been indicted on charges of trafficking in software to circumvent copyrighted materials, Borst said.

While there have been civil cases brought under the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), this is one of the first criminal cases brought under the controversial law, lawyers said.

"This could be the test case; the case to set the precedent," said Dario Diaz, a Tampa, Fla.-based attorney who specializes in digital copyright law.

Sklyarov, who faces up to five years in prison and a $500,000 fine if convicted, wrote a software program that Adobe Systems claims violates the 1998 Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), according to the criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in San Francisco.

Adobe alleges the program allows people to circumvent copyright protection mechanisms on its eBook Reader, which allows people who have purchased books in digital form to read them.

Sklyarov's program decrypts and converts the eBook files to Adobe's Portable Digital Format (PDF), enabling anyone using a PDF viewer to view it, said Vladimir Katalov, managing director of ElcomSoft Co. Ltd., the Moscow-based company that employs Sklyarov.

The program allows eBook readers to make copies of and transfer eBook files to other devices such as handhelds, Katalov added.

ElcomSoft specializes in software that enables companies to recover encrypted data when passwords are lost, said Katalov, reached by telephone in Portland, Ore.

Katalov, in defense of Sklyarov, said Adobe was bringing the legal action because the company "can't fix their security problems in their products." "It (Sklyarov's program) only decrypts books you have purchased, so it can only be used by the legal owner of the book," Katalov said.

ElcomSoft began selling the program for $99 about a month ago but stopped after Adobe complained, Katalov said. Adobe also managed to get ElcomSoft's Web site shut down a few times by lodging a complaint with its service provider, he said.

U.S. copyright protection law conflicts with laws in Russia, Germany and Scandinavian countries which require software makers to provide a way for users to create a backup copy, Katalov said. "So, in reality, Adobe software is illegal in Russia," he said.

Sklyarov gave a talk on Sunday at the DefCon convention entitled "eBooks Security: Theory and Practice" in which he talked about his program and weaknesses in Adobe's software.

An Adobe executive said the company stands by the claims in the complaint.

"No software on the market is 100% safe from determined hackers," said Adobe Marketing Vice President Susan Altman Prescott. "However, this is not a new business for Adobe, the notion of protection of digital content, and we will continue to use industry standard technologies to make our products difficult to compromise."

Controversy has surrounded the digital copyright act ever since it went into effect last year, with public advocacy groups arguing that it violates free speech rights guaranteed by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

"The statute draws a distinction between every way copyrighted material has been distributed in the past and digitally distributed material," said Edward Hernstadt, an attorney for 2600 Magazine, which is appealing a civil case filed in New York under the law.

In that case, eight movie studios claimed 2600 Magazine's online publication of a program called DeCSS (Decrypt Content Scramble System), that cracks encrypted digital video discs, violated the law.

In June, public advocacy group Electronic Frontier Foundation filed a civil lawsuit against the entertainment trade groups seeking to have the DMCA ruled unconstitutional.

The lawsuit was filed after the trade groups threatened to sue Princeton University computer science professor Ed Felten over his plans to publish his research into digital music access control technologies.

"The law is new and untested," said Diaz, who spoke on copyright law at DefCon.

Some security experts also oppose the law, claiming there is no sure way to prevent the copying of digital data.

"Really, what this is doing is companies are using the law to hide the fact that their security is bad," said Bruce Schneier, a cryptography expert and chief technology officer at Counterpane Internet Security, a computer network monitoring firm.

"The information for how to copy PDF files is being treated the same as lock picks and nuclear information," Schneier said."

"Sklyarov was arrested and jailed July 17, 2001 in Las Vegas, NV, at the behest of Adobe Systems, according to the DOJ complaint (link at right). He was charged with distributing a product designed to circumvent copyright protection measures. He was held in various jails unti his release on $50,000 bail on Aug. 6, 2001. He was not allowed to leave California and at that time had not seen his wife or children since leaving Russia for the conference in July (and expecting to be home in a few days).

In December 2001, negotiations by his attorney secured permission for Dmitry to return home to Russia with his family. However, charges have not been dropped, and he remains subject to prosecution in the US. As well, he has been ordered to testify against his company as the same case, now against his employer, Elcomsoft, goes to trial in 2002."

http://www.freesklyarov.org/background/ [www.freesklyarov.org]