asus b550 plus - disable tuning

Alaplapok

Nincs véletlenül valakinek ilyen alaplapja? Az a bajom, hogy akármit állítgatok rajta, akkor is 3,7-4,5Ghz között tartja a procit (Ryzen 5 5600X 3700Mhz) Az előző lapom egy gigabyte aourus b450 volt, ott windows alatt klasszul lement 1,6Ghz körülre idle állapotban. Már bios-t is frissítettem, de akkor se megy lejjebb.

TaskManager

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( andrej_ v | 2022. 12. 20., k – 17:04 )

Elvileg nem alaplap tartja ott, hanem az OS a terheltség függvényében. Az alaplapon a speedstepnek (AMD-nél régen talán powernow volt, de most épp a hatodik neve van) megfelelő nincs kikapcsolva véletlenül, vagy valamilyen gamermode, szuperturbo meg bekapcsolva?

( Ice | 2022. 12. 20., k – 17:06 )

BIOS-ban lehet tiltani a PBO-t. Nem auto-n hagyni!

érdemes utánaolvasni (sokat!) ryzen-en miket kell beállítani a bios-ban! Mert a gyári default értékek nagyon nem szoktak jók lenni. Illetve feleslegesen tornáztatja a feszültségeket 1-1 pillanatnyi, észlelhetetlen hatású boost miatt nagyon fog ugrálni a hőmérséklet. Ennek következtében meg a hűtőventillátor vezérlése is gyárilag kb. minden a piacon kapható alaplapra kötve idióta. Így annak a fordulatszámát is rángatni fogja.

( Enigma | 2022. 12. 21., sze – 13:56 )

Vezérlőpult/Energiagazdálkodási lehetőségek AMD Ryzen Balanced legyen. (ha nincs ilyen chipset driver install)

Szintén itt: Séma beállításainak módosítása/Speciális energiaellátási beállítások/Processzor energiagazdálkodása - minimális processzorteljesítményt: ha ott nem 5% módosíts rá.

a 2 dolog üti egymást!

a ryzen profilokban direkt van 99%-ra téve a minimum cpu speed: ha 100% lenne, a windows automatikusan letiltja az összes órajelcsökkentési funkciókat. Ezért kompromisszumosan a 99% a javasolt. Innentől pedig az a mondás, h. a ryzen processzorok (legalábbis 3000-es szériától biztosan) 1millisec-ként nézik a használatot és tudják belőnni az órajelet az éppen szükségesre. Az OS meg kb. csak 10-20-50 vagy 100millisec-ként tudná állítgatni, szóval így az OS helyett a CPU-nak engedjük ezeket. Az 5%-os beállítás a nem-ryzen prociknál az érdemes, amikben nem volt még ilyen sűrűn lefutó órajelmenedzsment

A task manager ilyenkor is base órajelet mutat (állítólag tévesen), viszont Ryzen Master-rel lehet nézni, hogy mi a valódi órajel.

hwinfo64 is megbízhatóbb órajel infót ad, mint a taskmanager

( mgabor v | 2022. 12. 21., sze – 17:46 )

Na annyi történt, hogy felba.. ideges lettem és fogtam egy i5-11400f -et egy b560-ba raktam és megy minden normálisan :) Ugyanitt $subject alkatrészek eladóak :)

pedig csak Linuxot kellene használni :) ja és bios auto.

$ sudo /usr/sbin/dmidecode | grep -A2 Base
Base Board Information
       Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
       Product Name: TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS

5600G
$ grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo                     
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1700.000
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1574.703
cpu MHz         : 1400.000
cpu MHz         : 1700.000
cpu MHz         : 2540.855
 

nincs aláírásom

Épp akartam írni, de láttam, hogy a kolléga hirtelen ugrott platformot. A helyében, miután meggyőződtem,hogy a BIOS-ban a PBO ki van kapcsolva, bebootoltam volna egy akármilyen Linux disztrót, és a grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo segítségével megnéztem volna, hogy mik a tényleges órajelek és mi a governor beállítás (cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor). A Windows sajnos egy kalap szar, ebből a szempontból is. Szépen lehet kattintgatni mindenféle lebutított GUI-n, meg megy rajta mindenféle prémium/exkluzív üzleti/CAD/TDP/kreatív szoftver, és még Cortana is segít, csak mikor olyan alap dolgok kellenének, hogy lássuk hogy működik a rendszer, mit csinál ténylegesen, infót nyerjünk a hardverről, erőforrás-felhasználásról, stb., ott nagyon csúnyán beleáll a földbe. Az a szerencse, hogy Windowson a 3rd party megoldások, mint a hwinfo, aida64, stb. legalább az alapokat jól kiírják.

“Windows 95/98: 32 bit extension and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.”

Base Board Information
    Manufacturer: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
    Product Name: TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS

BIOS Information
    Version: 2806
    Release Date: 10/27/2022

# grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
cpu MHz : 792.886
cpu MHz : 975.188
cpu MHz : 878.625
cpu MHz : 943.692
cpu MHz : 983.553
cpu MHz : 659.950
cpu MHz : 975.814
cpu MHz : 931.712
cpu MHz : 726.706
cpu MHz : 890.370
cpu MHz : 972.500
cpu MHz : 613.903
# cpupower frequency-info
analyzing CPU 0:
  driver: amd-pstate
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
  maximum transition latency: 131 us
  hardware limits: 550 MHz - 4.21 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 550 MHz and 4.21 GHz.
                  The governor "ondemand" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency: Unable to call hardware
  current CPU frequency: 641 MHz (asserted by call to kernel)
  boost state support:
    Supported: yes
    Active: yes
    Boost States: 0
    Total States: 3
    Pstate-P0:  3600MHz
    Pstate-P1:  2800MHz
    Pstate-P2:  2200MHz

( ncc1701 | 2022. 12. 22., cs – 06:45 )

Pont ilyen procit tervezek venni, szerencsére am4 lap van hozzá, öreg 2600-asom ideje cserélni. :)

( Borzas | 2022. 12. 23., p – 00:20 )

asus b550 plus + Ryzen 5 5600X

$ grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo

cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4715.392
cpu MHz        : 4716.055
cpu MHz        : 4725.000
cpu MHz        : 4725.000

magától nem is megy lejjebb (gondolom valamelyik BIOS beállítás miatt)

echo "2200" | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq

echo "conservative" | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

után

$ watch -n 0.5 grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo

cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 4715.149
cpu MHz        : 2200.000
cpu MHz        : 4715.382
cpu MHz        : 2200.000

$ sudo s-tui

monitor mód:

Frequency    [MHz]
Avg            2.4
Core 0         2.2
Core 1         2.2    
Core 2         2.2
Core 3         2.2
Core 4         2.2
Core 5         2.2
Core 6         2.2
Core 7         2.2
Core 8         2.2
Core 9         2.2
Core 10        2.2
Core 11        2.2

stress mód:

Frequency    [MHz]
Avg            4.7
Core 0         4.7
Core 1         4.7    
Core 2         4.7
Core 3         4.7
Core 4         4.7
Core 5         4.7
Core 6         4.7
Core 7         4.7
Core 8         4.7
Core 9         4.7
Core 10        4.7
Core 11        4.7

ezzel ellentétben

$ cpufreq-info
cpufrequtils 008: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2009
Report errors and bugs to cpufreq@vger.kernel.org, please.
analyzing CPU 0:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,22%, 2.80 GHz:4,46%, 2.20 GHz:94,33%  (7028)
analyzing CPU 1:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 1
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 1
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.71 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,97%, 2.80 GHz:6,29%, 2.20 GHz:91,73%  (7184)
analyzing CPU 2:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 2
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 2
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:2,36%, 2.80 GHz:4,26%, 2.20 GHz:93,38%  (7158)
analyzing CPU 3:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 3
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 3
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,48%, 2.80 GHz:4,01%, 2.20 GHz:94,52%  (6326)
analyzing CPU 4:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 4
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 4
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.69 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:2,02%, 2.80 GHz:8,46%, 2.20 GHz:89,52%  (7298)
analyzing CPU 5:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 5
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 5
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,77%, 2.80 GHz:3,75%, 2.20 GHz:94,48%  (6806)
analyzing CPU 6:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 6
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 6
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.69 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,86%, 2.80 GHz:6,52%, 2.20 GHz:91,62%  (7845)
analyzing CPU 7:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 7
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 7
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.70 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,92%, 2.80 GHz:3,93%, 2.20 GHz:94,15%  (7146)
analyzing CPU 8:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 8
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 8
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,45%, 2.80 GHz:4,88%, 2.20 GHz:93,67%  (7401)
analyzing CPU 9:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 9
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 9
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:0,59%, 2.80 GHz:4,34%, 2.20 GHz:95,08%  (7053)
analyzing CPU 10:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 10
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 10
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.72 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:2,10%, 2.80 GHz:10,38%, 2.20 GHz:87,52%  (6374)
analyzing CPU 11:
  driver: acpi-cpufreq
  CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 11
  CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 11
  maximum transition latency: 4294.55 ms.
  hardware limits: 2.20 GHz - 5.94 GHz
  available frequency steps: 4.73 GHz, 2.80 GHz, 2.20 GHz
  available cpufreq governors: conservative, ondemand, userspace, powersave, performance, schedutil
  current policy: frequency should be within 2.20 GHz and 4.73 GHz.
                  The governor "conservative" may decide which speed to use
                  within this range.
  current CPU frequency is 4.75 GHz.
  cpufreq stats: 4.73 GHz:1,44%, 2.80 GHz:2,37%, 2.20 GHz:96,18%  (7896)