Nekem is hasonló a problémám, Linuxszal. Nekem azt mondták, felejtsem el a netet, ha winmodem-re linuxot használok, de ahogy a szavaitokból kivettem, talán lehet olyan megoldás, amihez nem kell atomprogramozói tudás.
Javasolták már a PCMCIA kártyát, de most nincs zsebből 15E Ft-m, így más megoldást kell keresnem.
Korábban, amikor modemes netem volt, akkor én iswinmodemet használtam, és korrektül ment linux alatt is, mert volt hozzá driver. Intel gyártmány volt a modem, chipset a lényeg: Intel 536ep v92 (ebből az 536EP, és a v92 a lényeg). Ehhez volt driver a főbb disztrókhoz, de pl. egy Mandrivás driverrel simán ment UHU alatt is a modem.
Egyébként egy nagyon jó kis modem mind a mai napig, pedig már 2 éve vettem (jelenleg egy haverom használja -nagy megelégedéssel).
Hát nekem is volt/van ilyen problémám de már beletorodtem, hogy nem fog menni a winmodemem, volt regebben egy Lucent csipes azzal nem ment sehogyansem, meg most vagy egy ESS csipes na ezzel sem :P :cry: :evil:
Hát ha jól gondolom, hogy ott a lista közepében levő Sis -re gondolsz:
none0@pci0:2:6: class=0x070300 card=0x42011558 chip=0x70131039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS7013 HSP56 MR, PCtel Serial Wave Device (Modem Riser)'
class = simple comms
no akkor ezt nem fogod beizzítani, mert nincs hozzá BSD-s meghajtó. Ha nagyon zavar a dolog, akkor
1) nézz utána, hogy van-e linuxos driver
2) és ha van, akkor a POrts-ban levő comms/ltmdm és comms/mwave mintájára nekiállhatsz összebarkácsolni, hogy a bináris (?) linuxos meghajtója menjen BSD alatt is.
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Nekem is hasonló a problémám, Linuxszal. Nekem azt mondták, felejtsem el a netet, ha winmodem-re linuxot használok, de ahogy a szavaitokból kivettem, talán lehet olyan megoldás, amihez nem kell atomprogramozói tudás.
Javasolták már a PCMCIA kártyát, de most nincs zsebből 15E Ft-m, így más megoldást kell keresnem.
Előre is kösz!
Ez típustól függ, az én winmodememhez például van linuxos meghajtó, ltmodem-nek hívják. Egy-pár más vezérlőkhöz is van, utána kellene pontosan nézni.
Linux alá nincs nagy gond vele nekem ment 2.4-es kernellel, szerintem neked is mennie kell van hozzá jól használhtaór driver, nézz utánna a googlen.
Köszönöm, reményt adtatok! :)
Hali!
Korábban, amikor modemes netem volt, akkor én iswinmodemet használtam, és korrektül ment linux alatt is, mert volt hozzá driver. Intel gyártmány volt a modem, chipset a lényeg: Intel 536ep v92 (ebből az 536EP, és a v92 a lényeg). Ehhez volt driver a főbb disztrókhoz, de pl. egy Mandrivás driverrel simán ment UHU alatt is a modem.
Egyébként egy nagyon jó kis modem mind a mai napig, pedig már 2 éve vettem (jelenleg egy haverom használja -nagy megelégedéssel).
Itt talán érdemes olvasgatni:
http://linmodems.org/
Hát nekem is volt/van ilyen problémám de már beletorodtem, hogy nem fog menni a winmodemem, volt regebben egy Lucent csipes azzal nem ment sehogyansem, meg most vagy egy ESS csipes na ezzel sem :P :cry: :evil:
adrian
Az ltmodem segíthet. (Suseban alapból van)
A linmodems.org-on kapható bővebb információ, egy linken keresztül egy adatbázis érhető el, ahol megnézheted, mennyire linuxbarát a modemed.
Bsd-t nem tudom rávenni hogy használja a modememet, valaki tudna segíteni itt a pciconf es a dmesg kimenete:
Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993,
1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.4-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 10 09:08:14 UTC 2005
root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.30GHz (2300.10-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7
Features=0xbfebf9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,
PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,
HTT,TM,PBE>
real memory = 467599360 (445 MB)
avail memory = 447897600 (427 MB)
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: <PTLTD RSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x17> port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <SiS 650 host to AGP bridge> mem 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <display, VGA> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 2.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
fwohci0: <SiS 7007> mem 0xe0000000-0xe0000fff irq 9 at device 2.3 on pci0
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:90:f5:00:00:1f:ae:4e
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire> on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:1f:ae:4e
fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:1f:ae:4e
fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant
sbp0: <SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire> on firewire0
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
atapci0: <SiS 962/963 UDMA133 controller> port 0x1000-0x100f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0
ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
pci0: <simple comms, generic modem> at device 2.6 (no driver attached)
pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 2.7 (no driver attached)
ohci0: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe0001000-0xe0001fff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci1: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe0002000-0xe0002fff irq 9 at device 3.1 on pci0
usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci2: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe0003000-0xe0003fff irq 9 at device 3.2 on pci0
usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb2: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: <serial bus, USB> at device 3.3 (no driver attached)
rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xe0005000-0xe00050ff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:90:f5:1f:ae:4e
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
acpi_button1: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
acpi_cmbat0: <Control Method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0
fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: <Generic IRDA-compatible device> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 drq 0 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <ECP parallel printer port> port 0-0x7,0-0x7 on acpi0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Polled port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
umass0: Cypress Semiconductor USB2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2
umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED)
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2300096052 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
ad0: 28615MB <FUJITSU MHN2300AT/7256> [62016/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: CDRW <Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-324B/U101> at ata1-master PIO4
cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4081B A100> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers
cd0: cd present [1968048 x 2048 byte records]
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a
pid 639 (ndiscvt), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
agp0@pci0:0:0: class=0x060000 card=0x04001558 chip=0x06501039 rev=0x11 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS 650 Host-to-PCI Bridge'
class = bridge
subclass = HOST-PCI
pcib1@pci0:1:0: class=0x060400 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00011039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS 530 Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-PCI
isab0@pci0:2:0: class=0x060100 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00081039 rev=0x04 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS PCI to ISA Bridge (LPC Bridge)'
class = bridge
subclass = PCI-ISA
fwohci0@pci0:2:3: class=0x0c0010 card=0x04001558 chip=0x70071039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS OHCI Compliant FireWire Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = FireWire
atapci0@pci0:2:5: class=0x01018a card=0x04001558 chip=0x55131039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS5513 EIDE Controller (A,B step)'
class = mass storage
subclass = ATA
none0@pci0:2:6: class=0x070300 card=0x42011558 chip=0x70131039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS7013 HSP56 MR, PCtel Serial Wave Device (Modem Riser)'
class = simple comms
subclass = generic modem
none1@pci0:2:7: class=0x040100 card=0x04001558 chip=0x70121039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator'
class = multimedia
subclass = audio
ohci0@pci0:3:0: class=0x0c0310 card=0x04001558 chip=0x70011039 rev=0x0f hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
ohci1@pci0:3:1: class=0x0c0310 card=0x04001558 chip=0x70011039 rev=0x0f hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
ohci2@pci0:3:2: class=0x0c0310 card=0x04001558 chip=0x70011039 rev=0x0f hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS5597/8 Universal Serial Bus Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
none2@pci0:3:3: class=0x0c0320 card=0x04001558 chip=0x70021039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS7002 USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller'
class = serial bus
subclass = USB
rl0@pci0:10:0: class=0x020000 card=0x04001558 chip=0x813910ec rev=0x10 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Realtek Semiconductor'
device = 'RT8139 (A/B/C/810x/813x/C+) Fast Ethernet Adapter'
class = network
subclass = ethernet
none3@pci1:0:0: class=0x030000 card=0x04001558 chip=0x63251039 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS650/1/GL/GX,740 GUI 2D/3D Accelerator'
class = display
subclass = VGA
Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.4-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 10 09:08:14 UTC 2005
root@harlow.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.30GHz (2300.10-MHz 686-class CPU)
Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7
Features=0xbfebf9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,
PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,
HTT,TM,PBE>
real memory = 467599360 (445 MB)
avail memory = 447897600 (427 MB)
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: <PTLTD RSDT> on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi_ec0: <Embedded Controller: GPE 0x17> port 0x66,0x62 on acpi0
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x8008-0x800b on acpi0
cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
acpi_throttle0: <ACPI CPU Throttling> on cpu0
pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
agp0: <SiS 650 host to AGP bridge> mem 0xd0000000-0xdfffffff at device 0.0 on pci0
pcib1: <PCI-PCI bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <display, VGA> at device 0.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 2.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
fwohci0: <SiS 7007> mem 0xe0000000-0xe0000fff irq 9 at device 2.3 on pci0
fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=1)
fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4.
fwohci0: EUI64 00:90:f5:00:00:1f:ae:4e
fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 1 ports.
fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes.
firewire0: <IEEE1394(FireWire) bus> on fwohci0
fwe0: <Ethernet over FireWire> on firewire0
if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:1f:ae:4e
fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:90:f5:1f:ae:4e
fwe0: if_start running deferred for Giant
sbp0: <SBP-2/SCSI over FireWire> on firewire0
fwohci0: Initiate bus reset
fwohci0: node_id=0xc000ffc0, gen=1, CYCLEMASTER mode
firewire0: 1 nodes, maxhop <= 0, cable IRM = 0 (me)
firewire0: bus manager 0 (me)
atapci0: <SiS 962/963 UDMA133 controller> port 0x1000-0x100f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 2.5 on pci0
ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
pci0: <simple comms, generic modem> at device 2.6 (no driver attached)
pci0: <multimedia, audio> at device 2.7 (no driver attached)
ohci0: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe0001000-0xe0001fff irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0
usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb0: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb0: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci1: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe0002000-0xe0002fff irq 9 at device 3.1 on pci0
usb1: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb1: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb1: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ohci2: <SiS 5571 USB controller> mem 0xe0003000-0xe0003fff irq 9 at device 3.2 on pci0
usb2: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support
usb2: SMM does not respond, resetting
usb2: <SiS 5571 USB controller> on ohci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: SiS OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: <serial bus, USB> at device 3.3 (no driver attached)
rl0: <RealTek 8139 10/100BaseTX> port 0x2000-0x20ff mem 0xe0005000-0xe00050ff irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0
miibus0: <MII bus> on rl0
rlphy0: <RealTek internal media interface> on miibus0
rlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
rl0: Ethernet address: 00:90:f5:1f:ae:4e
acpi_button0: <Power Button> on acpi0
acpi_button1: <Sleep Button> on acpi0
acpi_acad0: <AC Adapter> on acpi0
acpi_cmbat0: <Control Method Battery> on acpi0
acpi_lid0: <Control Method Lid Switch> on acpi0
acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model GlidePoint, device ID 0
fdc0: <floppy drive controller> port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
sio0: <16550A-compatible COM port> port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: <Generic IRDA-compatible device> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 drq 0 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0: <ECP parallel printer port> port 0-0x7,0-0x7 on acpi0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: <Parallel port bus> on ppc0
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Polled port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
orm0: <ISA Option ROM> at iomem 0xc0000-0xcffff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
umass0: Cypress Semiconductor USB2.0 Storage Device, rev 2.00/0.01, addr 2
umass0: Get Max Lun not supported (STALLED)
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2300096052 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
ad0: 28615MB <FUJITSU MHN2300AT/7256> [62016/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
acd0: CDRW <Samsung CD-RW/DVD-ROM SN-324B/U101> at ata1-master PIO4
cd0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
cd0: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4081B A100> Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device
cd0: 1.000MB/s transfers
cd0: cd present [1968048 x 2048 byte records]
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a
pid 639 (ndiscvt), uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
Hát ha jól gondolom, hogy ott a lista közepében levő Sis -re gondolsz:
none0@pci0:2:6: class=0x070300 card=0x42011558 chip=0x70131039 rev=0xa0 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Silicon Integrated Systems (SiS)'
device = 'SiS7013 HSP56 MR, PCtel Serial Wave Device (Modem Riser)'
class = simple comms
no akkor ezt nem fogod beizzítani, mert nincs hozzá BSD-s meghajtó. Ha nagyon zavar a dolog, akkor
1) nézz utána, hogy van-e linuxos driver
2) és ha van, akkor a POrts-ban levő comms/ltmdm és comms/mwave mintájára nekiállhatsz összebarkácsolni, hogy a bináris (?) linuxos meghajtója menjen BSD alatt is.
Ez van.
mondjuk az se lenne baj ha nem az egesz dmesget pasztolnad ide:)