( sj | 2014. 10. 10., p – 09:45 )

igen, okkal.

Supplying "debug" on the kernel command line gets parsed by systemd.

az 1. kerdesemmel egy klasszikust ideznek: "es ezt igy hogy?" Eleve az gaz, hogy a systemd a kernelnek szant parametereket felnyalja.

Majd Kay megmagyarazza, hogy That is the expected current behaviour (szabad forditasban (szf): igen, balfasz vagyok) The generic term "debug" is read by Base OS tools too. (megismetli, hogy idiota)

as "debug" is a kernel cmdline parameter and not aimed for systemd. [...] Actually, I'd like to continue using "debug" - a workflow a lot of kernel people have been doing for years - without anything interfering,

szerintem ertheto allaspont

Kay frappans visszavagasa: Generic terms are generic, not the first user owns them. (szf: vakuum van a fejemben)

BP elkeseredett, amiert ez a systemd-s ember tenyleg debil: Right, and breaking existing use cases by hijacking generic terms is also ok. I was right to be very skeptical when considering opening a bug here.

Ahogy barmelyik ertelmes ember is gondolna, ahogy a dolgoknak lenniuk kellene (eleve nem kene felparszolni a kernel cmdline-t): The kernel is the primary user of its own command line and has a reasonable expectation that it's the default namespace for parameters [...] There may be base utils that parse the command line (they really shouldn't) but even if they do, their reaction should not be to scribble all over the kernel log.

Majd Kay elkezd terelni: Bugzilla is not a discussion forum, and repeating the same

OK, a kerneles csavo belemegy a jatekba, es kiboki, hogy mi a konkret bug (ami btw. az 1. pillanattol kezdve nyilvanvalo IQ20 felett) Ok, the bug is that a *kernel* parameter compels a *userspace* program to trash the *kernels* log with enough information to break boot due to timeouts.

Kay elmes valasza: Again, move discussions to the mailing list; this is a bug tracker, but there is no bug to track or fix here.

Dude, are you for real? Are you actually actively trying to be a d*ck or you're this way by default. We're telling you there's a serious issue and we're even being constructive by giving suggestions and you're deflecting. You have got to be f*cking kidding me!

Azt hiszem, ennyi eleg is annak bemutatasara, hogy ez a Kay Sievers nevu tag egy retardalt braindead fucktardo, es total egyet ertek a kernelfejlesztokkel, hogy a systemd-s tag hozzaallasa finoman szolva nem megfelelo.

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